can people still see the website?!

[Byrne]

so what's this phone call about?

[Madman!]

I've like this girl at work for a hella long time now, since she first started. She's older than me by 10years(I'm 25, she's 35) and just moved in with her current boyfriend about 2months ago now. So I basicly I gave up cause she's older than me and it sounds like she is pretty serious with this guy. We always hella flirt with each and I tell her like every day to break up with her boyfriend and it sounds like they now might be close to breaking up..cause of me..I dunno. Last week it seemed like our flirting got a little more serious, we're not kissing or anything but close. Everyone seems to agree that something is going on. I gave her my number and she told me she was going to ask for it just as I gave it to her and then she told me she would call yesterday around 4..still no call.

I was telling her this June that I'm taking my vacation and I didn't know where to go and that I was going with my brother, but said he might not want to go..she said that she would like to go. So as of now it seems like she will at least be going with me on vacation..she sounds pretty sure that she wants to and is going with me. I can't imagine being her boyfriend and being happy with going on a weeks vacation with some guy..she said she doesn't care what he says.

now I'm just waiting by the phone dying for her to call. I've already finished cleaning my room spotless and took care of all my bills and everything..now I'm just going crazy.

So is it just me or does something sound like something is going on?

[Byrne]

Interesting! It sounds to me like you have quite the drama in your life right now. So you say that she was due to call you yesterday at 4 and didn’t? Well don’t let that discourage you. If she has a boyfriend right now, as you say, and is thinking of breaking it off with him to pursue other options i.e. you, but she is still not sure what she wants to do then, she is going to be very careful not to do anything that would jeopardize her current relationship. That means that perhaps yesterday at 4 she was with your current boyfriend and could not make the call. So what you should do is wait around for the call and see if it comes. If, on Monday or the next time you see her at work, she still has not called you don’t even bring it up. Just play like nothing has happened. If what I have said is true and she really did want to call you but could not for some reason then she will apologize. If she didn’t call you for some other reason (she didn’t want to call you) then she will probably say nothing to you about it. In any case this is a good way to see how much she really likes you. When I was 15 I dated a girl from my church that was 20 we got along just great.

So do you have your own place then? Because I don’t know if a 35 year old is going to be interested in coming to your parent’s house and hanging out in your room. Good luck!

[Madman!]

Well if she breaks up with him and likes me then I would probably get a place with her. She already asked me awhile ago, when I told her that I was looking for a place..I just couldn't then cause of my school loans and such, but now I can, only problem is she's dating him. I would probably move in with her even if she doesn't want to date me but still wants to move out..I'm ready to move out.

[Byrne]

I would take her to your brother’s house or something. If that’s out of the question then just take her out to eat, to a movie or just for a long drive. I'm betting that she would be much more comfortable with something like that. These are just thoughts from someone that has already gone through something of what you are describing, but you know her better then I do.

You will be much better off with your own place, believe me. I got mine at the age of 20 and it wasn’t anywhere near as hard as I thought it would be.

[Madman!]

I could probably easily get a place now, it's just hard with the school loans. I would be living paycheck to paycheck and there are some things I wanted to do before I move out..it's kinda like I haven't had all the money to do the things I wanted to for a couple of years, now I can. But if she said yes I would get the place now, but I'd have to give up things like probably going on vacation, I would for her though.

[drazen]

Oh man hope for you that she will call you,
I see you already had serious thoughts about what you're gonna do
so the only thing left is keep your fingers crossed and clean your room better then before-a friend of mine told me about his first time one of the girls he dated came to his place- he cleaned up everything nice and stuff and when the girl came all she said was "gimme 20 minutes and I'll clean that dump" ;D ;D ;D

[Madman!]

You guys will not believe this, I haven't been away from the phone all weekend other than to go to the bathroom. Last night I checked the phone and I see I missed a call..I think it was her. Now everytime I call it goes to stright to voice mail. I don't know for sure if it was her, but I really can't see how I missed the call..when I say I didn't leave the phone I didn't leave the phone. d**n I can't believe me luck

Drazen, yeah most of my friends and most of the girls can't believe how clean my room is. I'm kinda like Monk, but not that extreme, everything has it's place and everything is pretty clean..I can't stand a mess.

Okay I found this place www.copamarina.com in Puerto Rico that I thought of asking if she would like to go there..you guys think she will like going there? There is some pictures under "about the resort."

[Byrne]

you could allways look the number up online? that would tell you how called.

and i cant think of any girls i know that wouldnt want to go to Puerto Rico. good call!

[Madman!]

Well today is the Shi*test dayd I've had in awhile. She did call, but apparently I made up all this stuff in my head..she thought I was joking the whole time and isn't going to break up with her boyfriend anytime soon. Man I feel like crawling into a ball and just forget about everything. My luck with the girls is like crazy bad. So I'll probably be going somewhere else on vacation unless some girl comes along in 2 months..doubt it.

[Byrne]

Sorry to hear it man. That is not good at all. I know there is nothing I can do to make you feel any less crappy but if you can think of anything you let me know ok? if she try’s to apologize about the whole thing I wouldn’t trust her!

[dan]

From now on, don't give all your heart to a woman until you know that's truth and worth it

and yeah, agree with Byrne, if she apologize you have to kick her ass in return haha

[kable]

Having read the thread, im sure somthing will work out for you madman. Could I ask how much it would cost for a decent house in the United states, I still live with my parents, however spend 4 out of 7 days at my girlfriends as shes at Uni and lives in an appartment.We are living together when she finishes uni but the price of housing in England is ridiculous for new buyers. Its like £130'000 ($260000) for a very average 2 bedroomer!!!

[Byrne]

You can buy a 3 bed, two baths with 1500 square feet for about $120000. You can rent a 1 bed, 600 square foot apartment for $360.

[maverick1104]

My personal life is not any better Madman!. I definitely feel for you, man. I tend to get my hopes up a little too high and that is my downfall. That is something I am trying to work on. I am trying not to have high expectations. Hell, I'm trying to have no expectations on those things. It's when you're least expecting something when it tends to show up on your doorstep. Keep your head up, man.